Maria Dernily was born about 1666 at Glossop, Derbyshire.
Maria Dernily was baptised on 17 June 1666 at Glossop, Derbyshire.
Maria Dernily was the daughter of John Dearnely and Mary (?)
Maria Dernily died in April 1683 at Derbyshire at age 16 years and 9 months.
Maria Dernily was buried on 28 April 1683 at Glossop, Derbyshire.
However, according to our current plan she would have been known as Rachel Kemp in 1771 & not Rachael Dernalley widow.
William Derneley was born in 1752
William Derneley was the son of Rachel Potter.
in 1771 William Derneley lived at Stockport, Cheshire.
William Derneley married Betty Hulme, daughter of Peter Hulme, on 9 March 1771 at St. Mary's Church, Stockport, Cheshire,
"William Dernalley of Stockport.... Twister" age 19 Bachelor intends to marry Betty Hulme of Macclesfield in the Parish of Prestbury.... aged twenty years ... Spinster"
Married with the consent of "Rachael Dernalley Widow his mother, of Peter Hulme father of the sd Betty Hulme"
witnesses: Chris'r Coates & Peter Hulme.
(?) (?) was born about 1792.
Ann Dearnley was born on 26 September 1845 at Oldfield, Netherthong, Yorkshire.
Ann Dearnley was the daughter of Thomas Dearnley and Lydia Jagger.
Ann Dearnley was baptised on 5 July 1846 at All Sants, Netherthong, Holmfirth, Yorkshire,
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1845
Baptism Date: 5 Jul 1846.
Ruth Dearnley was born on 5 January 1905 at Littleborough, Rochdale, Lancashire.
Ruth Dearnley was the daughter of William Dearnley and Betsy Ann Bamford.
Ruth Dearnley married Joseph Fallon on 11 July 1925 at St. Barnabas' Church, Shore, Rochdale R.D., Lancashire,
Joseph Fallon 21 Bachelor, Labourer res: Littlebro fa: Michael Fallon, Labourer
Ruth Dearnley 20 Spinster, --- res: Shore fa: William Dearnley, Shunter
Witnesses: William Dearnley & Ruth Mills.
Ruth Dearnley died on 2 November 1972 at Rochdale R.D., Lancashire, at age 67 years, 9 months and 28 days.
We believe this line is erroneous and that the Dernylegh family tree is just a poor interpretation of a complicated document.
However, there appears to be more generations shown than are possible.
For this pedigree to work, the Roger Dernylegh of Glossop shown as “liv. 1580” would
have to be the infant son of the Roger D. bringing the suit. Also the siblings Robert, Geoffrey
& Roger would have to be written in a non-traditional order. Roger being the first-born
son born before 1526.
BUT - it would be unusual for an infant to be known as “Roger Dernylegh of Glossop”
Pedigree for Roger of Glossop - a work in progress
Theory: Geoffrey Dearnley 1377 and Geoffrey Dernylegh 1523 are the same person. And Roger of Glossop is Roger of Dinting.
There are 3 problems with the published pedigree for Roger of Glossop (History of the Parish of Rochdale p422):
(1) The statement of 'some 52 years ago' and the associated date of 1528 are wrong. So I have ignored them.
(2) Assuming that the 2 Geoffreys are the same person, the father of Geoffrey and his brothers in the pedigree should be John not Roger.
In 1444 Roger Whitehead and Margaret his wife, together with Ellen Dearnley, recovered a moiety of two messuages, 40 acres
of land. &c., in Hundersfield and Spotland, which Roger Dearnley had given to John Dearnley and his issue, and which
after the death of John's son Geoffrey should descend to Margaret and Ellen, daughters of Geoffrey; Pal. of Lanc. Plea R. 6, m. 12.
(3) The Whitehead pedigree appears to be 2 generations longer than the Dearnley pedigree for the same period (1444-1580).
One possibility is that the compiler of the Dearnley pedigree mistakenly put Roger as father of Geoffrey instead of brother of Geoffrey,
which would give an additional Roger after Roger c.1410 in the table below.
The report of the Duchy proceedings names Mary as a daughter of Geoffrey. But this doesn't make sense. If she was a daughter of Geoffrey she would have had a share of the moiety shared by Margaret and Ellen, whereas her name appears in discussion of the other moiety. I am uncertain how the Butterworths fit in.
Why was the property in dispute in 1444 and who was the dispute with? I am assuming that Geoffrey's brother Roger claimed the property in 1444 but lost his claim to the Whiteheads.
There is still a bit of a problem with dates. However the dates are now feasible (note especially how the Whitehead dates fill the period 1444 to 1580). Explanations for long gaps between fathers and sons after Roger Dearnley c1410 include: late marriages; daughters born before the eldest son in the various generations; older brothers not surviving; a missing generation (see above).
Descendants of Roger Dearnley of Hundersfield and Spotland
(dates below are an attempt to get this scenario to work and do not match dates currently on the website)
|gen||name|| known to
be alive in:
|yob||name|| believed to
be alive in:
|1||Roger Dearnley||c1350|| Possibly a son or grandson of the Roger de
Dearnley known to be alive in 1332.
|Elder son||Younger son|
|3||Geoffrey Dearnley||pre-1444||c1400||Roger Dearnley||1444||c1410|
|4|| Margaret (Whitehead)
and sister Ellen
|5||John Whitehead||-||c1450||Roger Dearnley||-||c1490|
|6||Edmund Whitehead||-||c1475||Roger of Glossop|| 1580
- Janet A Davies, October 2012.
Roger Dernylegh was born about 1500.
Note: in 1504
Reference: C 1/304/66
Short title: Dernely v [Unknown].
Plaintiffs: Roger Dernely.
Defendants: NicholaRoger Dernylegh ... and ... Boverworth.
Subject: Detention of deeds relating to lands in Dearnley. Lancashire
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
Status: This record has not been digitised and cannot be downloaded. (June 2016)
see The National Archives.
Roger Dernylegh married (?) (?) about 1520.